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Icemanii
October 14th, 2009, 12:17 PM
SFWDA participated in a conference call today with the USFS and learned that they intend on permanently closing the Upper Tellico OHV System.

The decision will be posted on the North Carolina USFS website soon (http://www.cs.unca.edu/nfsnc/). When it is posted, there will be some detail from the agency about the decision, how it was reached, and what we can do to protest.

My understanding is that there will be a 45 day appeal period, followed by a 45 day period for USFS review. Once that review is complete, the decision will either be upheld or overturned. If upheld, we go into the courts.

SFWDA, BRC and United will have a news release out ASAP detailing our reactions to the decision and our next steps. We will also be asking for everyone to help us with the appeal and to step up the communications to the USFS about the decision (more letter writing, calling elected officials, peaceful protests, etc.).

Sorry this isn't a lot of information, but I haven't seen the documents yet. When I do, I'll post up more about what we need to do.
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Heather
SFWDA Director of Land Management

WhiteRhino
October 14th, 2009, 12:21 PM
My question is where my money can be spent the wisest. I'm willing to contribute to a defense fund but I don't want to send it to one of the above named organizations if they are spending money elsewhere. I would want 100% of my money to be spent on this.

Icemanii
October 14th, 2009, 12:37 PM
There will be more information posted on this as it comes out. Right now, mainly regrouping, but we have 45 days to file the appeal, then file a lawsuit in court.

There is the Save Tellico (or Rescue Tellico) Fund that is set up strictly to fight this one issue. I will post more details as they come available.

rentalrider
October 14th, 2009, 01:09 PM
:banghead: I've got nothing else to say. :banghead:

T-way
October 14th, 2009, 05:43 PM
This is exactly why people need to join and support organizations like GLFWDA, UFWDA, etc.

Thanks for keeping us posted on this. I look forward to more updates and learning what WE can all do to fight this!!!!

phittie1100
October 14th, 2009, 07:31 PM
My question is where my money can be spent the wisest. I'm willing to contribute to a defense fund but I don't want to send it to one of the above named organizations if they are spending money elsewhere. I would want 100% of my money to be spent on this.

http://www.sfwda.org/trails/tellico/donate.html

Icemanii
October 15th, 2009, 06:24 PM
RECREATIONAL GROUPS DECRY TELLICO CLOSURE
October 15, 2009
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Greg Mumm, BlueRibbon Coalition
208-244-2112
Jay Bird, Southern Four Wheel Drive Association
757-546-7969

Conservation groups dedicated to active and sustainable management of
the Upper Tellico OHV Area expressed deep disappointment with the U.S.
Forest Service decision to permanently close the Tellico trails. The
decision, which follows an earlier "temporary" closure, was announced
in documents published by the USFS yesterday morning.

Gary Parsons, President of the Southern Four Wheel Drive Association,
reacted by saying, "The Forest Service is simply wrong in this
decision. This public agency has ignored an independent study by
Caliber Engineering and the recommendations of its own Trails
Unlimited Team, which demonstrated effective management is attainable
and offered specific suggestions to achieve that goal."

The agency announcement by Forest Supervisor Marisue Hilliard again
parroted the water quality issues long favored by preservationist
special interests as the excuse for closure. Jay Bird, Chairman of
the Rescue Tellico Committee, noted, "The Tellico River is in
excellent shape and complies with all legal requirements. Only
through blatant modification of proper methodology, such as measuring
turbidity levels during peak runoff, can the Forest Service claim
there is legal basis to take any action, let alone closure."

"Sadly, we are not surprised. It now appears the Forest Service knew
it would close the Area years ago, and undertook the intervening
'public process' to justify a decision already made," said Greg Mumm,
Executive Director of the BlueRibbon Coalition. "We are sorely
disappointed that the Forest Service has determined it cannot
effectively manage the Upper Tellico OHV Area that users have
supported with millions of dollars in fees and thousands of hours of
volunteer labor. With our recreational partners, we will evaluate all
options that may change that determination."

# # #
The BlueRibbon Coalition is a national recreation group that champions
responsible use of public and private lands, and encourages individual
environmental stewardship. It represents over 10,000 individual
members and 1,200 organization and business members, for a combined
total of over 600,000 recreationists nationwide. 1-800-258-3742.
www.sharetrails..org

United Four Wheel Drive Associations is an international organization
comprised of four wheel drive enthusiasts, clubs, associations, and
businesses dedicated to providing community services around the world,
education in responsible land use and safe vehicle operation, and
protection of our natural resources through conservation practices.
1-800-448-3932. www.ufwda.org

Southern Four Wheel Drive Association (SFWDA) was founded in 1987 to
promote responsible land use and to keep public lands accessible for
motorized recreation. For more information on the activities and
accomplishments of Southern Four Wheel Drive Association, please visit
www.sfwda.org or contact us at 1483 N. Mt. Juliet Road, PMB # 222, Mt.
Juliet, TN 37122

T-way
October 16th, 2009, 08:40 AM
You know....what's interesting to me is that, years ago, when ORVs became popular, we had trouble with people operating wherever they wanted and cross country travel causing destruction in our forests.

So........the answer was to have the States open legal trail systems so that people could enjoy this new hobby in a safe, legal, and environmentally-responsible manner. On marked, legal trails in legal areas.

Now....these areas are all being closed.

When will the "powers that be" wake up and realize that, if all of the LEGAL areas for ORV operation are closed, the only option left for ORV operators will be to run rampant across the land in an ILLEGAL and DESTRUCTIVE manner.

Is it just me, or are we moving backwards here?????

:banghead:

joe_jeep
October 16th, 2009, 02:45 PM
the tree huggers hate you! they have the money and power.
with the dems in office they have literally limitless power.
we are totally s.o.l. for at least 4 years!
our opinions, rights, and tax dollars are meaningless to them.

j.m.h.o.

Jarhead
October 16th, 2009, 04:54 PM
You know....what's interesting to me is that, years ago, when ORVs became popular, we had trouble with people operating wherever they wanted and cross country travel causing destruction in our forests.

So........the answer was to have the States open legal trail systems so that people could enjoy this new hobby in a safe, legal, and environmentally-responsible manner. On marked, legal trails in legal areas.

Now....these areas are all being closed.

When will the "powers that be" wake up and realize that, if all of the LEGAL areas for ORV operation are closed, the only option left for ORV operators will be to run rampant across the land in an ILLEGAL and DESTRUCTIVE manner.

Is it just me, or are we moving backwards here?????

:banghead:

Are you crawling around in my head?

I have been thinking the same thing.

T-way
October 17th, 2009, 06:04 PM
Well Bob.....you now what they say!

"Great minds think alike"!!

Personally, I'm flattered to think that I might be thinking the same thing as you. Puts me in pretty good company!

This just really bums me out. I've spent the last 20+ years reading about Tellico in all of the major off road mags, seeing video, etc. And I've always dreamed of going there sometime. I actually had the chance to ride shotgun with a good friend when their club went there a few years back, but family obligations kept me from making the trip.

And now......well, who knows? It might never be an available opportunity in my lifetime. :banghead:

Now is the time to rally!!!!!

:ninja:

T-way
October 17th, 2009, 06:07 PM
Well Bob....you know what they say!

"Great minds think alike"!!

Personally, I'm flattered to be thinking along the same lines as you. Puts me in pretty good company!!!

This really bums me out. For the past 20+ years I've been reading about Tellico in all of the major mags, watching videos, etc. And it's always been a dream of mine to go there. I even had a chance to ride shotgun with a good friend when his club went there a few years back. But....family obligations kept me from making the trip. :banghead:

And now....it looks like I may never have the opportunity to wheel there.

Time to rally!!

:ninja:

DDS4X4
December 1st, 2009, 10:40 PM
They have 45 days to decide.

T-way
December 2nd, 2009, 12:16 AM
Can't we just ride around down there and tell them that we're cruising timber for one of the logging companies????????

:bootyshake:

Icemanii
December 2nd, 2009, 12:34 AM
They have 45 days to decide.

Yes Hopefully we will prevail in our fight for this. Meanwhile, logging and related business goes on as usual.

T-way
December 2nd, 2009, 10:09 AM
Crooked bastards..........................

:banghead:

JohnnyJ
December 2nd, 2009, 10:25 PM
Can't we just ride around down there and tell them that we're cruising timber for one of the logging companies????????

:bootyshake:

Nice idea. Maybe we could start the "Smoky Mountain Lumber Trek"

DDS4X4
December 3rd, 2009, 12:16 AM
:laughing2: :thumb: :thumb:

T-way
December 3rd, 2009, 09:36 AM
Nice idea. Maybe we could start the "Smoky Mountain Lumber Trek"



Bring your paintball guns (to mark the trees) and a fun-loving attitude!!!!!

Look out timber...........here we come!!!

:lmao: