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TODDsXj
September 22nd, 2008, 09:24 PM
I was out ridding in a place that i have been going for years out on M-33 just out side of Afton Michigan. They have taken a skidder threw the trail and have clear cutted everything. That is a designated snowmobile trail is their anything we can do to stop it.

Greenway
September 23rd, 2008, 08:06 AM
Not in this case, The trees are already down.

With enough pressure, the DNR and Forest Service can require logging companies to maintain buffer strips along forest roads and trails when they harvest trees on state or federal property. The problem is putting enough pressure on the DNR and Forest Service.

The Land Use Committee on GLFWDA is trying to monitor and effect actions by these agencies that affect our enjoyment of the forest. This takes a lot of citizen involvement to attend meetings, read govermental documents, discuss proposed actions and their ramifications, and propose alternative courses of action.

Our main objective is to keep the forest roads and trails open and hopefully to get more for full size users (Jeeps and Trucks etc).

This is followed closely by keeping the forests desirable for our sport. We're looking for rustic roads that offer a challenge to driving and offer scenic views that make us want to be there in the first place. Paved or gravel flat roads through clearcut stands are not a desired future condition.

Read all the posts in the Land Use sections. If this is something you feel you would like to become more involved in, PM trail_fanatic for more information on how you can help. We do need people who will actively pursue these solutions.

timbercruiser
September 25th, 2008, 10:49 AM
If it's a designated snowmobile trail, they wiil have to clear the trail and leave it smooth. Actually, they have to do that for any road/trail.

As for stoppoing the cutting or putting up buffers, it really doesn't affect our trail usage. In fact, if done correctly, it could enhance our trails! Especially the skidder part.

TODDsXj
September 25th, 2008, 12:59 PM
If it's a designated snowmobile trail, they wiil have to clear the trail and leave it smooth. Actually, they have to do that for any road/trail.

As for stoppoing the cutting or putting up buffers, it really doesn't affect our trail usage. In fact, if done correctly, it could enhance our trails! Especially the skidder part.

We had went out their on Sunday, and like you said, the skidder enhanced the trails difficulty, but i cant believe that they are cutting down the forest like that.

Greenway
September 25th, 2008, 07:47 PM
As for stoppoing the cutting or putting up buffers, it really doesn't affect our trail usage.

The buffers I'm talking about are strips of forest 50 to 100 yards wide on either side of the road that doesn't get logged. That way when you're driving down the road, it's still a forested road. If you look through the trees you'll see the logged portion 50 to 100 yards off the road. This maintains the scenic value of the road as well as providing a conduit for forest critters that like some cover.

Petoskey Mudder
September 25th, 2008, 10:23 PM
I was out ridding in a place that i have been going for years out on M-33 just out side of Afton Michigan. They have taken a skidder threw the trail and have clear cutted everything. That is a designated snowmobile trail is their anything we can do to stop it.

Is that the Koehler road area where you went T-Way/Timbercruiser???
I love that trail. Introduced a few people to Jeep'n with that trail.

timbercruiser
September 26th, 2008, 01:06 PM
We had went out their on Sunday, and like you said, the skidder enhanced the trails difficulty, but i cant believe that they are cutting down the forest like that.

It's all Aspen. In 2-3 years, it'll be extremely thick-great cover for deer and grouse.

timbercruiser
September 26th, 2008, 01:08 PM
Is that the Koehler road area where you went T-Way/Timbercruiser???
I love that trail. Introduced a few people to Jeep'n with that trail.
I saw the paint on the trees last spring and knew it would be cut. My fear is that they will "fix" the trail and make it good enough for a Buick.

TODDsXj
September 26th, 2008, 10:14 PM
Well what gets me is , at those to first water holes, that is spring fed, the ground is not pressed dirt, all the dirt is going to get pushed right back out of those holes. Unless they find the spring and run a metal pipe threw for it to go under the road, but lets hope they leave it like they usually do, so we can turn it back into the trail we once knew it as.:ahhh:

timbercruiser
September 29th, 2008, 01:54 PM
I'm sure it'll get back to being fun after a while.

Petoskey Mudder
September 29th, 2008, 07:42 PM
I am trying to get people to go out that way on thursday if anyone is interested.:woot:

timbercruiser
September 30th, 2008, 01:48 PM
Time?

T-way
September 30th, 2008, 11:01 PM
Time?

Dave....don't you mean "Does anyone have a rig that I can wheel? Or at least a power steering pump that I can bolt on to mine?"

:poke:

Petoskey Mudder
September 30th, 2008, 11:30 PM
Time?
late afternoon, sometime after 2.

timbercruiser
October 1st, 2008, 01:57 PM
Dave....don't you mean "Does anyone have a rig that I can wheel? Or at least a power steering pump that I can bolt on to mine?"

:poke:

:bootyshake:

timbercruiser
October 1st, 2008, 01:57 PM
late afternoon, sometime after 2.
Oh man, won't work for me:banghead:
Plus the aforementioned power steering issue

Petoskey Mudder
October 1st, 2008, 04:59 PM
Had a blast with NOONE!! Bunch of pansies.

timbercruiser
October 3rd, 2008, 12:04 PM
no tengo dinero

T-way
October 3rd, 2008, 03:17 PM
Oh man, won't work for me:banghead:
Plus the aforementioned power steering issue


So......he moons me, but admits that I was RIGHT!!!

:flipoff:

Petoskey Mudder
October 3rd, 2008, 08:38 PM
Sunday we are taking a trip up there again.....up for the trip??:poke:
email me
steve@bradyads.com
:ninja:

Petoskey Mudder
October 6th, 2008, 10:58 AM
Hard to recognize the trails after all has been destroyed. PuddleJumper, his wife and my dog and I had a great time playing in the mud. Mrs. PuddleJumper had the only camera that worked, so pictures will be coming shortly. Wish you all could have been there.:bootyshake:

timbercruiser
October 6th, 2008, 05:34 PM
Hard to recognize the trails after all has been destroyed. PuddleJumper, his wife and my dog and I had a great time playing in the mud. Mrs. PuddleJumper had the only camera that worked, so pictures will be coming shortly. Wish you all could have been there.:bootyshake:
Define "destroyed" - Smoothed over after logging was done?:wah: or messy/sloppy/muddy :woot:

Petoskey Mudder
October 6th, 2008, 06:07 PM
hmm cant delete this.

Petoskey Mudder
October 6th, 2008, 06:08 PM
www.leossportsbar.com/MyJeep.htm
Check out this link to see the pictures.