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Bult4mud
February 19th, 2006, 11:06 PM
Frined of mine has a High pinion d44 and a Ford 9" that he said i could have. the only prob is they are out of a fullsize bronco, i have NO intentions to run fullwidths, what should i do as far as retubing cutting ect

Id like to run as many off the shelf parts as possible so if i do break stuff will be easier to find ect.... any suggestions?

mitrail400ex
February 20th, 2006, 12:24 AM
Are these from Rob?
Anyways, your BEST bet would be to find something close, but narrower. Like a scout D44 for the front, and a 60s mustang for the rear, and get axle shafts for them (for your spares). Then, just cut the ends off the axle tubes and have someone narrow them to fit the axles. DTS in Warren can do it, but I think its $125-175 each.

But if you haven't broken an axleshaft yet, I DOUBT you'll break one in a 44, let alone a 9". All of the other parts are off-the-shelf items, like your ujoints and seals and such.

Tab
February 20th, 2006, 10:23 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mitrail400ex &#064; Feb 19 2006, 11&#58;24 PM) 10621</div>

Are these from Rob?
Anyways, your BEST bet would be to find something close, but narrower. Like a scout D44 for the front, and a 60s mustang for the rear, and get axle shafts for them (for your spares). Then, just cut the ends off the axle tubes and have someone narrow them to fit the axles. DTS in Warren can do it, but I think its &#036;125-175 each.

But if you haven&#39;t broken an axleshaft yet, I DOUBT you&#39;ll break one in a 44, let alone a 9". All of the other parts are off-the-shelf items, like your ujoints and seals and such.
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I have a scout front for sale if you decide to go this route.

mitrail400ex
February 20th, 2006, 11:43 AM
I was actually using the scout as an example, not a real application. Otherwise, he&#39;d have to convert to a D300 or some other passenger side drop t-case, so that he could run the scout axle. He&#39;s got a TJ, so I doubt he&#39;d want to do that any time soon.

95geo
February 20th, 2006, 12:02 PM
why not just rum them as the width they are?

the pickups were about 66 and the bronco was a little narrower like 64 maybe?

if you run a 4" bs wheel and a 12.5" tire your over all width will be right around 80" thats about perfect for a trail rig with a body that needs protecting

my axles are 65" wide and i have 4.25" bs 9" wide wheels and im about 80" wide. i&#39;d suggest 78-80" and these axles at the stock width should put you there

Jeeperz-Creeperz
February 20th, 2006, 12:04 PM
If you use full-width axles and cut them down you can use off the shelf parts except for the rear axle shaft and the front inners (possibly just the long side, depending on the donor axle).

We can shorten and build them if you like.

Bult4mud
February 20th, 2006, 09:18 PM
Kevin thanks

i may have ya do that

Bryce i like the idea but i feel that is a lil wide going from like 65&#39;s to almost 80

Roadhouse
February 20th, 2006, 09:43 PM
Jim to give ya an idea of what Bryce is saying. This ZJ is running full width D44/9" axles which are about 65-66". It has 36x12.5 Swampers on 15x8 wheels with like 4-4.5" backspacing. The tires don&#39;t stick out that far. The Ford 1/2 ton full width axles are only 5" wider than your stock setup.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/Roadhouse66/Our%2095%20Jeep%20ZJ/IM005562.jpg

Your current setup should be a little wider than 65" also. My Heep with 265/75r16 on 16x7 w/4.25" backspacing is 68-69" roughly. Hard to measure by your self. :P

Bult4mud
February 21st, 2006, 04:18 PM
where are all our fabricators at


Kevin i still maybe calling ya

could ya pm me a rough price
on bulding the axle
cutting the tubes ect

thx

joe_jeep
February 21st, 2006, 06:43 PM
look at the top post in shop talk called tj axles, im doing the same swap and have a ton of info on this topic. also alot of pictures of different set ups for 79 ford d44 fronts on tjs and grand cherokees. this should help u out . dont narrow it. but 4.5 in backspacing rims and u will b bout 1 in wider than stock tj, plus u can use all the old parts as spares and buy off the shelf parts not custom stuff. read this post it will help u out